Roy I saw you on the peak cam, very jealous. I also met the guy who got his truck stuck, He passed me by Troy Meadows in a KIA and was asking about the road conditions, my advice was turn around, he did. May will be a good time to pick up that truck! I helped a guy in a Camaro from Chicago, that was stuck on December 19 near black rock, no chains, no winter clothes, no common sense. Have fun, c u on the mountain!